Poor on purpose

What these youth are learning by living in poverty
Posted: 5:00 AM, Feb 20, 2018
Updated: 2018-12-12 14:09:35-05
Poor on purpose


CINCINNATI -- The sweet smells of onion and garlic filled the kitchen of an old West End rectory on a recent Thursday evening.

Ana Davila and Carmen Lopez Agredano had just finished making dinner for eight, and everyone was anxious to eat. Jack Delisio helped set the table while Lopez Agredano carved a baked chicken breast into thin slices for everyone to share. (Everyone except Davila, who is a vegetarian.)

The housemates talked and laughed as they settled into mismatched chairs around a big, dining room table. They joked about the elbow macaroni that Lopez Adredano had to mix in with the spaghetti and the white sauce made from a mostly remembered Pinterest recipe. But before they filled their plates, they paused for grace.

"Please bless those we served today," David Devlin said. "Please bless this food and the hands that prepared it."

The Vincentian Volunteers of Cincinnati sit down for dinner at their home in the West End. Emily Maxwell | WCPO

That’s right. A group of hungry 20-somethings bowed their heads in prayer without anyone there to cajole them into it.

But these aren’t typical 20-somethings. They are the Vincentian Volunteers of Cincinnati, young adults that devote 11 months of their lives to work at the Society of St. Vincent de Paul in Cincinnati and live in solidarity with the neighbors they serve.

For the VVCs, as they’re known, that means living in an old rectory on Bank Street owned by St. Vincent de Paul, and earning a small monthly stipend. They will be eligible for a $5,800 educational award at the end of their service. But during their year as VVCs, they buy their groceries with food stamps and get around using the bus.

It’s a modest life that helps them better understand the people who visit St. Vincent de Paul seeking help. It also helps them figure out what careers they want to pursue in nonprofit work or social services.

“We’re looking for folks who are compatible with the mission of St. Vincent de Paul to provide hope for people who are in the margins,” said Maura Carpinello, St. Vincent de Paul’s director of service learning and one of the people who created the VVC program. “People who are interested in social justice and inequity.”


This marks the sixth year for the program and the largest number of VVCs yet. The eight participants come from across the country and around the world, and St. Vincent de Paul chose them based on their talents, their interest in faith-based service and their willingness to live in “intentional community.”

It’s kind of like “Real World,” but with young people who care about improving people’s lives rather than being on TV.

“It’s very counter-cultural,” Carpinello said.

It doesn’t take long for them to feel changed.

“I think the VVCs realize just because they’re people of privilege typically does not mean that they’re always in a place of giving,” she said. “They, too, can receive and learn just as much or more so from the people they’re encountering.”

WCPO began following several of the VVCs in September of 2017 to chronicle their experiences. Here is what they have learned so far.

The local guy

Jack Delisio grew up in Westwood and went to St. Xavier High School. He started getting involved in service learning projects there and got more involved in college at Xavier University.

But he wasn’t sure what he wanted to do after he graduated from Xavier with a degree in history and classics.

“I wasn’t quite ready to leave Cincinnati and the support I have here,” he said. “I knew I wanted to stay local but challenge myself and get involved and get more experience.”

Delisio works as a service learning coordinator, where he helps lead service-learning retreats for high school and college students. He also helps organize visits with clients of St. Vincent de Paul at their homes and often takes part in those visits, too.

Jack Delisio preps a group of high school students for a full day of volunteering at St. Vincent de Paul in the West End. Emily Maxwell | WCPO

Delisio, 22, like the other VVCs who were eligible, had to apply for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, more commonly known as food stamps.

He had a particularly difficult time. Delisio said he was on hold for 30 minutes the first time he called to start his benefits before his phone got disconnected. He had to wait another 30 minutes when he called back. He didn’t actually start getting food stamps until early December.

“There are those stereotypes of living on the system and just kind of lazing around, and really that’s not the case,” Delisio said. “It takes a lot of effort to get those benefits, and it’s often very inconvenient. The whole process takes a lot of time, and it keeps people from their jobs.”

Family members have worried about his safety because of where he lives, Delisio said.

“It all comes from a place of love, but there are definitely comments,” he said.

Delisio said he has never felt afraid in the West End. And living and working among his neighbors in need has given him a new understanding and respect.

“Even if I didn’t recognize it before, I realize that I used to unconsciously think, ‘they don’t know any better or I’m smarter than them or I’m better than them or I’m higher up than them,’” he said. “This just humanizes people in poverty so much more, just identifying that people have goals and hopes and dreams and passions just like I do.”

‘I don’t have a super power’

Carmen Lopez Agredano grew up in southern Spain and applied to the VVC program after graduate school in Europe.

Lopez Agredano, 26, had been involved in service work in various developing countries. This is her first time being in the United States, and it’s quite different from what she expected.

Carmen Lopez Agredano helps a client applying for assistance from the food pantry at St. Vincent de Paul. Emily Maxwell | WCPO

“The countries that I’ve been to, they’re kind of like classified as the poorest,” she said. “I actually didn’t expect the levels of poverty and especially homeless people in Cincinnati and how like the group that are more affected are children.”

Living in the West End has surprised Lopez Agredano, too, she said.

“I remember the first time I decided to take a walk by myself. I go to one street, it seemed like a war zone. The next street, these fancy houses,” she said. “It was a very confusing moment. I’m still confused.”

Lopez Agredano works as a conference support coordinator at St. Vincent de Paul. She helps the different conferences throughout the region that make up Cincinnati’s Society of St. Vincent de Paul address the needs in their communities.

She also translates when Spanish-speaking people come to St. Vincent de Paul’s Bank Street offices in the West End, although she doesn’t think of that as a special talent.

“I don’t have a super power. I’m born in that country. I know the language,” she said.

But Lopez Agredano said she has seen the relief in the faces of the Spanish-speaking people she has met.

“It’s really hard to ask for help. I cannot imagine going to a place, if you add to that the barrier of language, it’s even more complicated,” she said. “I guess that having here someone who at least can understand -- it’s a relief.”

Like Delisio, she has been surprised by how difficult it can be for her fellow VVCs -- and St. Vincent de Paul’s clients -- to work through bureaucracy involved in getting food stamps.

“It’s kind of like a lack of humanity,” she said. “They are not asking for a new car or they are not asking you for luxury stuff. They are asking you for food to feed themselves and feed the children.”

Her biggest lesson so far: The strength in the people that come to St. Vincent de Paul.

“It’s kind of amazing how people keep forward,” she said. “I don’t know if in their situation I would be as brave as they are with that much courage.”

Learning about 'the system'

Phyllis Kyei Mensah applied for the VVC program because she has always wanted to work in the nonprofit sector.

She grew up in Ghana and got her master’s degree in political science from Miami University in Oxford.

The experience has taught her a lot more about American society than college did, she said.

“It’s definitely different from when you are on campus,” said Kyei Mensah, who is 26. “In a way it has introduced me to the American system.”

That system is much different than what she expected after a lifetime of hearing about America’s big cities and celebrities.

She has come to believe that people living in poverty here can be worse off than people living in poverty in Ghana, she said.

Phyllis Kyei Mensah, originally from Ghana, works as a community relations associate for the VVC program. Emily Maxwell | WCPO

“Back home, you have people to help you in times of crisis,” she said. “When you’re poor here, it means you really have nobody.”

Living with such a diverse group of people has been a challenge for Kyei Mensah, she said. With VVCs from across the U.S. and three foreign countries, it can take work to build consensus and understand everyone’s perspectives. 

The Super Bowl is one example. The VVCs moved a television into a larger room of the old rectory so they could all watch the game together. They made snacks, and the Americans tried to explain why they all were rooting for the Philadelphia Eagles as the underdogs.

Lopez Agredano and Kyei Mensah ended up being the only two in the group to root for New England because they felt like both teams should have fans.

But in her day-to-day work at St. Vincent de Paul, language is the biggest challenge, she said.

“The job I like the least is doing the intake forms because people don’t understand me, and I don’t understand people,” she said.

Kyei Mensah’s job title is community relations associate. That entails working with people at St. Vincent de Paul’s Bank Street location and also going into neighborhoods sometimes.

The work has left her wondering why the vast majority of St. Vincent de Paul’s clients are black or Hispanic.

“Over here, I think poverty is the system that kind of controls how poor people are,” she said. “I don’t know if that’s right or wrong.”

From the mountains to city life

Ana Davila has known that service was her calling since she first got involved in the youth ministry at her church when she was 14.

She grew up in Clifton Park, New York, near the Adirondack Mountains and graduated from Niagara University with a degree in developmental disabilities.

Ana Davila cooks a pasta dinner at the VVCs' community home in the West End. They take turns cooking dinner for all eight volunteers with groceries bought from food stamps. Emily Maxwell | WCPO

Davila, 23, works as a client advocate at St. Vincent de Paul, helping people get assistance ranging from food or new birth certificates to vouchers for furniture or other needs. A big part of the job, she said, is simply listening to people who are going through tough times.

“Usually I get more out of it than what I expect,” she said. “They are just so filled with Christ and so grateful for the little things I take for granted.”

As rewarding as the work has been, though, life as a VVC has come with frustrations.

“I grew up near the mountains, and normal night sounds were animals and crickets and frogs,” she said. “Here it’s people talking and an occasional ruckus outside.”

Plus there is the hassle of not having a car and worrying about whether the group will have enough money on their food stamp cards to get through the month. The VVCs have a white board in the kitchen that shows exactly how much money is left on each card and the date each one gets refilled.

Davila said she has begun to appreciate the far more urban neighborhood where she lives now as a VVC.

“Carmen and I went for a walk after Mass one Sunday, and I think it was one of the first times I ever felt the city could be beautiful to me,” she said. “I think a lot of that is rooting out of the people I’m meeting here.”

Davila has become a regular at the YMCA in the West End, and there’s a group of men from the neighborhood who greet her like an old friend there.

Ana Davila works a client advocate at St. Vincent de Paul where she helps local residents apply for food assistance from their pantry in the West End. Emily Maxwell | WCPO

Davila has a way of talking to people like they’re old friends, too. On a recent morning, she and Lopez Agredano worked to add Cora Smoot’s grandsons to Smoot’s food pantry intake form so she could select more food for her family.

Both young men had been shot, and their mother died late last year. They needed to move in with Smoot temporarily, she said, and she needed some extra help to keep everyone fed.

Davila chatted with her and learned Smoot grew up in Erie, Pennsylvania, not far from where Davila went to college.

“Dreary Erie,” Smoot said with a chuckle.

“Noooo,” Davila replied, smiling. “I like to call it ‘Cheery Erie.’”

‘It’s not that simple’

For all the VVCs, though, the biggest challenge of their work has been the feeling that they can’t do enough.

“You want to help everybody. And coming into a year in service, I almost had a notion that I could help everybody,” Davila said. “But now I’m realizing that you can’t.”

All eight of the Vincentian Volunteers of Cincinnati live together in a home in the West End. Emily Maxwell | WCPO

Kyei Mensah said she worries about the people and families that continue to need help from St. Vincent de Paul year after year.

“I feel we are doing well by giving them things, but I feel like we should do more,” she said. “We should address long-term needs.”

The solution to poverty, Kyei Mensah said, lies in better education and jobs, and it doesn’t make sense to her that growing up in a particular neighborhood should make it so difficult for people to get ahead.

Lopez Agredano said she often feels like she should be doing more for the neighbors that St. Vincent de Paul serves.

“It’s this feeling of, ‘I’m failing you,’” she said.

That’s especially difficult for Delisio, he said, when he visits people in their homes.

He described one woman he met who had lost everything. She had her belongings in storage but fell behind on the payments for the space so the company threw away everything.

“I gave her a voucher for $120 for furniture at one of our thrift stores. A sofa costs $100. That’s not going to go very far,” he said. “And we want simple and easy solutions to all of these issues, but it’s not that simple as just writing a voucher.”

Those feelings of never being able to do enough can take their toll on those who spend their careers at social service agencies.

St. Vincent de Paul's West End location. Emily Maxwell | WCPO

Having a new group of young VVCs each year helps bring new energy to the work and keep the rest of the St. Vincent de Paul staff grounded in their mission and its importance.

“For those of us who have been in the business for a long time, it’s easy to get crusty or jaded or not have that fresh approach,” Carpinello said. “Our VVCs are a great reminder for the rest of the staff for how to encounter people with dignity and respect.”

More information about St. Vincent de Paul or the Vincentian Volunteers of Cincinnati is available online.

WCPO Digital Reporter Lucy May and Photojournalist Emily Maxwell are following this group of Volunteer Vincentians of Cincinnati throughout their experience.

Childhood poverty has been an important focus for May and Maxwell and for WCPO. To read more stories about childhood poverty, go to www.wcpo.com/poverty.